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		<title>By: Chad D. Walz</title>
		<link>http://www.dgreport.com/index.php/2009/12/09/snow-patrol/#comment-13802</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad D. Walz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go out to Home Depot and get that Awesome Auger that Billy Mays used to push!  The thing rocks.  not sure if it will work way do deep but it worked on my mailbox post hole.  Good luck Ryan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go out to Home Depot and get that Awesome Auger that Billy Mays used to push!  The thing rocks.  not sure if it will work way do deep but it worked on my mailbox post hole.  Good luck Ryan!</p>
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		<title>By: RyanDe680</title>
		<link>http://www.dgreport.com/index.php/2009/12/09/snow-patrol/#comment-13801</link>
		<dc:creator>RyanDe680</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 18:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I&#039;m kind of with Chad on the mailbox issue.

Thanks to Home Depot, I&#039;ve got a brand new one waiting in my garage.  There&#039;s no way I&#039;m going outside in 5 degrees to install that though.  

Anyone have an auger I can borrow????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I&#8217;m kind of with Chad on the mailbox issue.</p>
<p>Thanks to Home Depot, I&#8217;ve got a brand new one waiting in my garage.  There&#8217;s no way I&#8217;m going outside in 5 degrees to install that though.  </p>
<p>Anyone have an auger I can borrow????</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Green</title>
		<link>http://www.dgreport.com/index.php/2009/12/09/snow-patrol/#comment-13781</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to see any evidence that the second and third (gold and yellow) priority roads are ever plowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to see any evidence that the second and third (gold and yellow) priority roads are ever plowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.dgreport.com/index.php/2009/12/09/snow-patrol/#comment-13773</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, HS. My personal snow patrol -- aka teenaged son -- is so committed at school that he doesn&#039;t get home until after dark most days. Not the best time to shovel.

And on a day like today, only the heartiest souls have been out in my neighborhood. Biting cold sub-zero weather has a way of doing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, HS. My personal snow patrol &#8212; aka teenaged son &#8212; is so committed at school that he doesn&#8217;t get home until after dark most days. Not the best time to shovel.</p>
<p>And on a day like today, only the heartiest souls have been out in my neighborhood. Biting cold sub-zero weather has a way of doing that.</p>
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		<title>By: HS</title>
		<link>http://www.dgreport.com/index.php/2009/12/09/snow-patrol/#comment-13772</link>
		<dc:creator>HS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to be able to be a &quot;good neighbor&quot; every time it snows and immediately clear my sidewalks, but unfortunately I am employed and have to get on the road. And if it&#039;s a heavy snow, I know it will take me about 90 minutes to get to work and 90 minutes to get home if I&#039;m lucky - meaning I have to hit the road even sooner! So sorry, not all of us have the luxury of spending the whole morning meticulously cleaning off all surrounding pavement, heading out to Omega for a nice breakfast, and then repeating the process in the afternoon. Most likely I&#039;ll be up early to shovel just to let myself back out of the driveway, leave for work about 6:30, and be home anywhere between 5 and 7pm (And in a blizzard? The condition of my sidewalk is last thing on my mind during one of those 3 hour one-way commutes!) . So if you walk past my house between those times - sorry! Can&#039;t do anything about it. I can see enforcing these rules on businesses but not on homeowners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d love to be able to be a &#8220;good neighbor&#8221; every time it snows and immediately clear my sidewalks, but unfortunately I am employed and have to get on the road. And if it&#8217;s a heavy snow, I know it will take me about 90 minutes to get to work and 90 minutes to get home if I&#8217;m lucky &#8211; meaning I have to hit the road even sooner! So sorry, not all of us have the luxury of spending the whole morning meticulously cleaning off all surrounding pavement, heading out to Omega for a nice breakfast, and then repeating the process in the afternoon. Most likely I&#8217;ll be up early to shovel just to let myself back out of the driveway, leave for work about 6:30, and be home anywhere between 5 and 7pm (And in a blizzard? The condition of my sidewalk is last thing on my mind during one of those 3 hour one-way commutes!) . So if you walk past my house between those times &#8211; sorry! Can&#8217;t do anything about it. I can see enforcing these rules on businesses but not on homeowners.</p>
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		<title>By: williamwrobel</title>
		<link>http://www.dgreport.com/index.php/2009/12/09/snow-patrol/#comment-13765</link>
		<dc:creator>williamwrobel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, John Schoefield and Elaine, that is the ordinance that is on the books and which is not up held by Merchants (Plowing Services, etc.) and home owners on Main  and other four lane roads.

Please visit www.downersgrovewatch.org and see examples from last January where piles of parking lot snow and driveway snow were deposited up to 5 or 6 feet on sidewalks along Ogden Avenue making it impossible for pedestrians to walk on side walks forcing them into the 
street,  interfering with 4 lanes of Curb to Curb Traffic.  Sears Store and Jewel/Osco on Ogden did not pile snow on their sidewalks and also plowed their sidewalks, last January 2009,  these are two businesses that are pedestrian friendly.

The Watch would appreciate Citizens calling gross violations into the CRC Citizens response Center with the Village for Code Enforcement to Contact the Business Owners or Shopping  Center Manager. 

It is also a Good Neighbor Practice for Businesses and Citizens to plow their sidewalks and if they are at a Corner such as Main and Ogden Avenue to shovel the Crosswalks to assist pedestrians to cross the intersections.   Last January, Walgreens, Trojan Hut, the BP Station and the Used Car lot at that Intersection either covered the sidewalk with their parking lot snow, or did not shovel their walks and certainly did not offer access to the cross walks at this busy intersection. 

The Mayor called for Citizens and Businesses in Downers Grove to step foward this year to help the Village and offer their services to compliment the Village efforts., at Tuesday Night&#039;s Workshop Meeting. 

I am certain that Business Owners and Property Owners on Ogden Avenue and Streets Like Main Street (4 Lanes of fast traffic) can keep their sidewalks safe for pedestrians.  Some businesses and property owners already do, they can reach out to their neighbors (business and individual) and get their NEIGHBORS to come together for everyone&#039;s  benefit for a Safe Winter 2009/10 in Downers Grove. 

Today, I plowed my driveway and blew the snow on the parkway.  Likewise, I plowed the sidewalk in front of my house and to the North and South to join the plowing efforts of my neighbors.  It is surprising how one good turn prompts another.   None of my neighbors put driveway snow on the sidewalks, even if they don&#039;t plow their sidewalk, which is the exception.

Bill Wrobel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, John Schoefield and Elaine, that is the ordinance that is on the books and which is not up held by Merchants (Plowing Services, etc.) and home owners on Main  and other four lane roads.</p>
<p>Please visit <a href="http://www.downersgrovewatch.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.downersgrovewatch.org</a> and see examples from last January where piles of parking lot snow and driveway snow were deposited up to 5 or 6 feet on sidewalks along Ogden Avenue making it impossible for pedestrians to walk on side walks forcing them into the<br />
street,  interfering with 4 lanes of Curb to Curb Traffic.  Sears Store and Jewel/Osco on Ogden did not pile snow on their sidewalks and also plowed their sidewalks, last January 2009,  these are two businesses that are pedestrian friendly.</p>
<p>The Watch would appreciate Citizens calling gross violations into the CRC Citizens response Center with the Village for Code Enforcement to Contact the Business Owners or Shopping  Center Manager. </p>
<p>It is also a Good Neighbor Practice for Businesses and Citizens to plow their sidewalks and if they are at a Corner such as Main and Ogden Avenue to shovel the Crosswalks to assist pedestrians to cross the intersections.   Last January, Walgreens, Trojan Hut, the BP Station and the Used Car lot at that Intersection either covered the sidewalk with their parking lot snow, or did not shovel their walks and certainly did not offer access to the cross walks at this busy intersection. </p>
<p>The Mayor called for Citizens and Businesses in Downers Grove to step foward this year to help the Village and offer their services to compliment the Village efforts., at Tuesday Night&#8217;s Workshop Meeting. </p>
<p>I am certain that Business Owners and Property Owners on Ogden Avenue and Streets Like Main Street (4 Lanes of fast traffic) can keep their sidewalks safe for pedestrians.  Some businesses and property owners already do, they can reach out to their neighbors (business and individual) and get their NEIGHBORS to come together for everyone&#8217;s  benefit for a Safe Winter 2009/10 in Downers Grove. </p>
<p>Today, I plowed my driveway and blew the snow on the parkway.  Likewise, I plowed the sidewalk in front of my house and to the North and South to join the plowing efforts of my neighbors.  It is surprising how one good turn prompts another.   None of my neighbors put driveway snow on the sidewalks, even if they don&#8217;t plow their sidewalk, which is the exception.</p>
<p>Bill Wrobel</p>
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		<title>By: KellyDGM</title>
		<link>http://www.dgreport.com/index.php/2009/12/09/snow-patrol/#comment-13759</link>
		<dc:creator>KellyDGM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The garage at the corner of Fairview and Ogden was plowing thier parking lot snow right into the street  with a John Deere they were hitting cars with it too..... I hear you EJ on the driveway I have a steep one and the plows always pile me in.  Chad - I seem to remember that most all cities expect a certain number parked cars and mailboxes among other things to be taken out by plows. All that said they do a very good job keeping my street clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The garage at the corner of Fairview and Ogden was plowing thier parking lot snow right into the street  with a John Deere they were hitting cars with it too&#8230;.. I hear you EJ on the driveway I have a steep one and the plows always pile me in.  Chad &#8211; I seem to remember that most all cities expect a certain number parked cars and mailboxes among other things to be taken out by plows. All that said they do a very good job keeping my street clear.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad D. Walz</title>
		<link>http://www.dgreport.com/index.php/2009/12/09/snow-patrol/#comment-13756</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad D. Walz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what muni code covers all the damage to mail boxes from these plows speedin through the streets kickin up huge sprays of snow?  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what muni code covers all the damage to mail boxes from these plows speedin through the streets kickin up huge sprays of snow?  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.dgreport.com/index.php/2009/12/09/snow-patrol/#comment-13754</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, John, I believe that is the ordinance Wrobel was referencing.

On a personal note, I keep waiting for Municipal Code 19.21.2, which will prohibit plows from depositing several inches of snow across my driveway -- or at least allow me to blow it back into the street from whence it came.

 After years of listening to commissioners caution residents against blowing snow into the streets, I certainly take their point. But sometimes, there&#039;s just no place else to put it.

Oh well, a girl can dream...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, John, I believe that is the ordinance Wrobel was referencing.</p>
<p>On a personal note, I keep waiting for Municipal Code 19.21.2, which will prohibit plows from depositing several inches of snow across my driveway &#8212; or at least allow me to blow it back into the street from whence it came.</p>
<p> After years of listening to commissioners caution residents against blowing snow into the streets, I certainly take their point. But sometimes, there&#8217;s just no place else to put it.</p>
<p>Oh well, a girl can dream&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Schofield</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Schofield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the larger issue along commercial corridors is to encourage businesses not to put snow on the public way to begin with, in compliance with the Municipal Code 19.21.1. 

Depositing of snow on streets and sidewalks prohibited.

     It shall be unlawful for any person, other than authorized Village personnel, to:

a.    Plow or otherwise remove snow or ice from private property and deposit the same on any Village street, sidewalk or right-of-way in such a manner as to decrease the drivable width on any such street, impede the normal routing of pedestrian traffic, or significantly hamper Village snow removal efforts.

b.    Plow or otherwise remove snow or ice from private property in such a way as to block the vision of motorists at any intersection, prevent parking at the curb or cover fire hydrants.

(Ord. No. 2361, § 1.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the larger issue along commercial corridors is to encourage businesses not to put snow on the public way to begin with, in compliance with the Municipal Code 19.21.1. </p>
<p>Depositing of snow on streets and sidewalks prohibited.</p>
<p>     It shall be unlawful for any person, other than authorized Village personnel, to:</p>
<p>a.    Plow or otherwise remove snow or ice from private property and deposit the same on any Village street, sidewalk or right-of-way in such a manner as to decrease the drivable width on any such street, impede the normal routing of pedestrian traffic, or significantly hamper Village snow removal efforts.</p>
<p>b.    Plow or otherwise remove snow or ice from private property in such a way as to block the vision of motorists at any intersection, prevent parking at the curb or cover fire hydrants.</p>
<p>(Ord. No. 2361, § 1.)</p>
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